Seems to hold true from anecdotal evidence but likewise I'd coach that with "within the Overton window". From my time among the dredges I think you will find people at the bottom (i.e. I think everyone of your posts on this topic would look differently if you compared let's say those living in abject poverty i.e. the poor to the upper middle class) are quite supportive of traditional western liberal values in practice though albeit lacking in articulating it. It's the middle class which is the outlier here as generally they are the most socially conservative group as they constantly live in fear of change as they detest the poor but likewise in their souls know they are always one negative random incident away from joining them.
Basically what I'm saying here I think is your data excluding the "rich" is getting strongly biased by not excluding the poor as well. This entire series is interesting including Henderson's posts but likewise it would be interesting the same exploration of the definition of "poor" because really what all these are talking about is "how to make the middle to upper middle class, which most of your readers and us too are part of, feel superior to other classes"
PS: Your Henderson threw me for a loop because I associate that with David Henderson of GMU (?) fame
Good to see you here.:) Sorry for mixing Hendersons! I am also a fan of David.
The data are easy to split out, so to clarify: your hypothesis is that the middle class holds the least classically liberal views relative to both the upper and lower classes, yes? What shall we call lower class? I put some thought into the definition of upper class, but not lower; give me a quantitative definition and I’ll redo the graphs.:)
Seems to hold true from anecdotal evidence but likewise I'd coach that with "within the Overton window". From my time among the dredges I think you will find people at the bottom (i.e. I think everyone of your posts on this topic would look differently if you compared let's say those living in abject poverty i.e. the poor to the upper middle class) are quite supportive of traditional western liberal values in practice though albeit lacking in articulating it. It's the middle class which is the outlier here as generally they are the most socially conservative group as they constantly live in fear of change as they detest the poor but likewise in their souls know they are always one negative random incident away from joining them.
Basically what I'm saying here I think is your data excluding the "rich" is getting strongly biased by not excluding the poor as well. This entire series is interesting including Henderson's posts but likewise it would be interesting the same exploration of the definition of "poor" because really what all these are talking about is "how to make the middle to upper middle class, which most of your readers and us too are part of, feel superior to other classes"
PS: Your Henderson threw me for a loop because I associate that with David Henderson of GMU (?) fame
Peter,
Good to see you here.:) Sorry for mixing Hendersons! I am also a fan of David.
The data are easy to split out, so to clarify: your hypothesis is that the middle class holds the least classically liberal views relative to both the upper and lower classes, yes? What shall we call lower class? I put some thought into the definition of upper class, but not lower; give me a quantitative definition and I’ll redo the graphs.:)